VIC5 - 9x Parallel Plate Array
Maximum capacity 9-cell parallel plate array for experimental high-current work.
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The parts
- The cell Plate - 9x Parallel (Max Capacity) — water cell plate
- Water Rainwater — Rain
- Charging choke Bifilar Choke 2 - 100T AWG18 (Finish-Finish) — AWG 18 Copper AWG 18, bifilar
- Its core PC40 Ferrite Pot Core — PC40 pot
- Blocking choke Bifilar Choke 2 - 100T AWG18 (Finish-Finish) — AWG 18 Copper AWG 18, bifilar
- Its core PC40 Ferrite Pot Core — PC40 pot
- Transformer Forward Mode 1:5 Step-Up — Medium ratio forward transformer for moderate voltage boost
From the parts
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σ On the way 7.813 µS/cm
Rainwater's conductivity, from its dissolved solids reading.
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L₁ Charging choke 38.54 mH
The charging choke's inductance: 100 turns on PC40 Ferrite Pot Core (μᵣ 2300, 0.8 cm², 6 cm path).
Inductance of a winding on a core — 1 note on that page
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L₂ Blocking choke 38.54 mH
The blocking choke's inductance: 100 turns on PC40 Ferrite Pot Core (μᵣ 2300, 0.8 cm², 6 cm path).
Inductance of a winding on a core — 1 note on that page
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R Series resistance 0.2323 Ω
Series resistance, added up: Bifilar Choke 2 - 100T AWG18 (Finish-Finish) 0.0962 Ω + Bifilar Choke 2 - 100T AWG18 (Finish-Finish) 0.0962 Ω + Plate - 9x Parallel (Max Capacity) 0.04 Ω. Wiring and connections are not counted.
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C Cell capacitance 5.188 nF
One pair of plates of Plate - 9x Parallel (Max Capacity) — 232.2576 cm² at a 3.175 mm gap — in distilled / deionised.
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C Cell capacitance 46.69 nF
9 such cells in parallel. The inductance handed to the array calculation is the two chokes added plainly, for its resonance figure only; the capacitance does not depend on it.
Multi-cell array — 2 notes on that page
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ℓ Cell leak resistance 19.44 Ω
The leak across one pair of plates, from its geometry and Rainwater at 7.81 µS/cm. 9 such cells in parallel leak 9 times as readily, so this is one 9th of that.
Leak resistance across a plate cell — 1 note on that page
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V Drive amplitude 60 V
The drive amplitude of 12 V stepped up through Forward Mode 1:5 Step-Up (100:500). The 1 A primary current given to the ratio calculation is for its current figures only; the voltage ratio does not depend on it.
- Both chokes are recorded as bifilar windings, but the arrangement is set to independent. If they share a core, choose an aiding or opposing arrangement and a coupling coefficient.
Result
Where the loop — both chokes and the cell — actually rings. Compare with the drive frequency.
Both chokes together, with the mutual term if they are coupled.
Signed: positive aiding, negative opposing, zero if independent.
√(L/C) — what the loop looks like at resonance before resistance.
How sharp the resonance is against the series resistance.
The cell voltage at resonance — Q times the drive.
Below 1 the loop rings after each pulse; above 1 it sags.
How fast the ring dies away.
What the drive pushes at the drive frequency, not at resonance.
Dissipated in the resistance, averaged over pulses and gate.
How many pulses arrive before the gate closes.
Where the step-charge staircase tops out against the leak, after n pulses.
LaTeX
2.653\,\mathrm{kHz} = \frac{1}{2\pi \sqrt{77.07\,\mathrm{mH} \cdot 46.69\,\mathrm{nF}}}
Worth knowing
- Q factor and voltage rise — A Q of 5531 is very high for a circuit with water in it, and implies a bandwidth of only 0.4797 Hz. Confirm the series resistance includes the cell’s own losses — using just the choke’s winding resistance is the usual way to arrive at a Q like this on paper and not on the bench.
- Q factor and voltage rise — A predicted 331.8 kV across the cell is past where insulation, standoffs and the water itself hold up. Check the field strength across the gap before trusting this.
- Current and power under a pulsed drive — The drive is at 3.77× the loop's resonance (2.65 kHz). The net reactance of 4.5 kΩ is what limits the current here, not the resistance; on resonance the same drive would push 258 A.
- Step charging accumulation — Only 0% of the voltage survives between pulses, so there is no staircase — each pulse is very nearly starting from nothing. The cell is discharging through the water faster than it is being charged.
- Step charging accumulation — The burst reaches 2% of what perfect retention would give. Raising the drive frequency shortens the gap between pulses and helps; raising the water resistance helps far more.
- The drive is at 10 kHz and the loop rings at 2.65 kHz — 3.77× resonance. The resonant rise of 332 kV above is what this loop would do driven on resonance; at the drive frequency the cell sees the drive through 4.5 kΩ of reactance instead. Either move the drive or change a choke so the two agree.
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The working, step by step
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1. Pulse train timing
n 50The drive as timing: how long each pulse is, how many fit inside one gate, and what fraction of the time the drive is on.
With these numbers LaTeX
100\,\mathrm{µs} = \frac{1}{10\,\mathrm{kHz}} \qquad 50\,\mathrm{µs} = 100\,\mathrm{µs} \cdot \frac{50\,\mathrm{%}}{100} \qquad 50 = \left\lfloor \frac{50\,\mathrm{%}}{100} \cdot \frac{10\,\mathrm{kHz}}{100\,\mathrm{Hz}} \right\rfloor \qquad 25\,\mathrm{%} = \frac{50\,\mathrm{%} \cdot 50\,\mathrm{%}}{100} -
2. Two chokes on one core
L 77.07 mHThe two chokes as the loop sees them — their sum, plus or minus the mutual term if they share a core.
With these numbers LaTeX
0\,\mathrm{mH} = \pm 0 \sqrt{38.54\,\mathrm{mH} \cdot 38.54\,\mathrm{mH}} \qquad 77.07\,\mathrm{mH} = 38.54\,\mathrm{mH} + 38.54\,\mathrm{mH} + 2 \cdot 0\,\mathrm{mH} \qquad 38.54\,\mathrm{mH} = 38.54\,\mathrm{mH} + 0\,\mathrm{mH} -
3. Series LC resonant frequency
f 2.653 kHzWhere that inductance and the cell ring.
With these numbers LaTeX
2.653\,\mathrm{kHz} = \frac{1}{2\pi\sqrt{77.07\,\mathrm{mH} \cdot 46.69\,\mathrm{nF}}} -
4. Q factor and voltage rise
Q 5531How sharply, against everything resistive in the loop, and how far the cell voltage rises above the drive on resonance.
With these numbers LaTeX
5531 = \frac{1}{0.2323\,\mathrm{Ω}}\sqrt{\frac{77.07\,\mathrm{mH}}{46.69\,\mathrm{nF}}} \qquad 331.8\,\mathrm{kV} = 5531 \cdot 60\,\mathrm{V} \qquad 0.4797\,\mathrm{Hz} = \frac{2.653\,\mathrm{kHz}}{5531}- A Q of 5531 is very high for a circuit with water in it, and implies a bandwidth of only 0.4797 Hz. Confirm the series resistance includes the cell’s own losses — using just the choke’s winding resistance is the usual way to arrive at a Q like this on paper and not on the bench.
- A predicted 331.8 kV across the cell is past where insulation, standoffs and the water itself hold up. Check the field strength across the gap before trusting this.
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5. Damping and ringdown
ζ 9.04e-5What happens after each pulse: whether the loop rings or sags, and for how long.
With these numbers LaTeX
9.04e-5 = \frac{0.2323\,\mathrm{Ω}}{2} \sqrt{\frac{46.69\,\mathrm{nF}}{77.07\,\mathrm{mH}}} \qquad 663.6\,\mathrm{ms} = \frac{2 \cdot 77.07\,\mathrm{mH}}{0.2323\,\mathrm{Ω}} \qquad 2.653\,\mathrm{kHz} = \frac{1}{2\pi} \sqrt{\frac{1}{77.07\,\mathrm{mH} \cdot 46.69\,\mathrm{nF}} - \frac{1}{663.6\,\mathrm{ms}^{2}}} \qquad 4054 = \frac{\ln 10}{\pi} \cdot \frac{1}{0.2323\,\mathrm{Ω}} \sqrt{\frac{77.07\,\mathrm{mH}}{46.69\,\mathrm{nF}}} -
6. Current and power under a pulsed drive
I 13.33 mAWhat the drive is asked for at the frequency it actually runs at — which is the resonance only if the two agree.
With these numbers LaTeX
4.502\,\mathrm{kΩ} = 2\pi 10\,\mathrm{kHz} \cdot 77.07\,\mathrm{mH} - \frac{1}{2\pi 10\,\mathrm{kHz} \cdot 46.69\,\mathrm{nF}} \qquad 4.502\,\mathrm{kΩ} = \sqrt{0.2323\,\mathrm{Ω}^{2} + 4.502\,\mathrm{kΩ}^{2}} \qquad 13.33\,\mathrm{mA} = \frac{60\,\mathrm{V}}{4.502\,\mathrm{kΩ}} \qquad 41.26\,\mathrm{µW} = 13.33\,\mathrm{mA}^{2} \cdot 0.2323\,\mathrm{Ω} \qquad 10.32\,\mathrm{µW} = 41.26\,\mathrm{µW} \cdot \frac{25\,\mathrm{%}}{100} \qquad 2.063\,\mathrm{nJ} = 41.26\,\mathrm{µW} \cdot 50\,\mathrm{µs}- The drive is at 3.77× the loop's resonance (2.65 kHz). The net reactance of 4.5 kΩ is what limits the current here, not the resistance; on resonance the same drive would push 258 A.
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7. Step charging accumulation
U 60 VThe pulse train against the cell and its leak: does the charge accumulate into a staircase, or drain away between pulses?
With these numbers LaTeX
0.9078\,\mathrm{µs} = 19.44\,\mathrm{Ω} \cdot 46.69\,\mathrm{nF} \qquad 1.441e-48 = e^{-100\,\mathrm{µs}/0.9078\,\mathrm{µs}} \qquad 60\,\mathrm{V} = 60\,\mathrm{V} \cdot \frac{1 - 1.441e-48^{50}}{1 - 1.441e-48}- Only 0% of the voltage survives between pulses, so there is no staircase — each pulse is very nearly starting from nothing. The cell is discharging through the water faster than it is being charged.
- The burst reaches 2% of what perfect retention would give. Raising the drive frequency shortens the gap between pulses and helps; raising the water resistance helps far more.
What this looks like
The formula behind the curve
- f₀
- Resonant frequency, Hz
- L
- Loop inductance, mH
- C
- Cell capacitance, nF
LaTeX
f₀ = \frac{1}{2\pi \sqrt{L \cdot C}}
The formula behind the curve
- f₀
- Resonant frequency, Hz
- L
- Loop inductance, mH
- C
- Cell capacitance, nF
LaTeX
f₀ = \frac{1}{2\pi \sqrt{L \cdot C}}
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