New Zealand 1989, part 2: the house meeting, transcribed

New Zealand 1989, part 2

Transcribed by the archive from the tape as posted to YouTube. The film.

Contaminated water, and heavy water

[0:00] your energy needs, shut it down, hook a little computer to it, dump out the contaminated water, rinse it out like a dish of water, go ahead and fill it up with water again, re-energize it up to around four to six ounces of back pressure and continue on operation but in the cycling if you notice in my drawing when you burn hydrogen oxygen and what's the byproduct water right well instead of letting the water go back up in the atmosphere it's pure absolutely pure you can use it drinking or whatever you want right so can i not recapture the

[0:32] the gas is coming off and cool it down and as a result feed it back into the fuel cell and recycle it again so when I do that then the dumping out of the rinsing the fuel cell it out has become automatic and therefore you only have any servicing in the areas of of cleaning up the resin cavity. Matter of fact, the release of the gas inside the resin cavity acts as a scrubbing action, so it never clogs up, no matter how much contaminants, or if you have like 40 parts or 50 parts per million, it won't clog up the system at all. Stan, another use for the whole system is just purifying water. Yes. You can just use it to purify water and get heat as well. Yes, and not only that, it also gives us the ability to move into other areas of the technology.

[1:26] heavy water content. All water has a heavy water level.

[1:31] All drinking water, all rain water has heavy water and other traces. I mean water contains basically 33 different elements. Okay, those elements or contaminants in the water remains in the fuel cell. So not only is the water fuel cell a phenomenal water purification device, it's also an extractor. So if you have elements like iron or nickel or whatever you have in there, it also could be extracted out of the water. I'm talking about just pure water, and it's pure estates. It still has 33 different components. Well, if those contaminants are there, it would still remain within the fuel cell, unless you would take it out. But hang on, I'm talking about the combinations between the hydrogen isotopes and the oxygen isotopes. What happens to these? Do you polarize them and break them down? You must do. So that must be a gas component. Oh, yeah. As a matter of fact, when we took the analysis of the gas, okay, all the gases coming out for the U.S. patent and the foreign patent, it was coming exactly 2 to 1, which was absolutely beautiful because it solved all of our problems because voltage was switching off and pulling them apart.

[2:36] Now, if you're going to start talking about heavy waters and getting into the isotope areas, then when you look at the fundamental voltage again, it has a phenomenal event, not only to prevent the action from occurring, but it'll just simply pull it apart. Now, here in Auckland, what I did is I actually ran a Ford six-cylinder motor on it, on the water in the lab. What we did is we condensed the water, and we took part of that and reintroduced it into the inlet manifold, and a strange phenomena took place. And that is it started to continue with less energy input. And I felt that it was the isotopic reaction from the condensed water that's going through a secondary combustion phase.

[3:21] Have you got any comment on that? Yeah, I'll comment about that a little later. You can see he's working on hydrogen.

The electron extractor

[3:28] Yeah. Next factor we did is also the Lord was dealing with me is developing what's called the electron extraction circuit. And this electron extraction circuit was very unique in several areas. We already found out now we can release the hydrogen from water and its burn yield was two and a half times that of gasoline. That's National Bureau of Figure Standards. That's the NASA's figures, and that's our figures to show a tremendous amount of release of energy. Now, we were going for that we needed to protect the military integrity of the United States and of the Western world. As I was making preliminary presentations to General Burchard and their technical staff at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, I said, General, I don't care how sophisticated hydrogen or a pirate aircraft you have sitting on the runway, without any aviation fuel, it becomes a piece of junk. Now, generals don't like to be told that their equipment is a piece of junk.

[4:25] But it becomes so when you have no form of energy. So it was imperative that we now start to go in areas of developing systems that we could literally maintain the military posture of the United States in the western world. And of course I've been in very high level meetings in England and other countries demonstrating or presenting the technology. Now as we started to

[4:48] We found a way of releasing the energy from water very economically. It solved the Kiss Method and the law of economics. Now we started to go into residence, as we started to point out in residence, hitting the fuel cell in a way that we're now allowing the hydrogen gas to be developed even at a higher rate of production.

[5:10] And we've taken it now and raised the voltage up to the point that we're starting to ionize the water, the atoms of the water molecules. Now ionization is where voltage is much like that of your neon tube. When you apply voltage across it, it plucks off the electrons. And so we're plucking off the electrons now of the atoms of the water molecules. And then those atoms, that missing electrons, will take on a positive electrical charge. And now you've got some negative charge electrons bouncing around in there. and we're now starting to superimpose a physical impact onto the electrical polarization process, which now gives us a phenomenal high gas yield over the prior state of the art. Now, since we're going into the ionization process and we are now plucking off the electrons of the atoms of the water molecule, and these electrons are now being injected out of the water molecule atoms, now we're liberating these electrons.

[6:01] We're liberating them.

[6:03] And as a result of this, we're now starting to pull the electrons out of the water. And as we pull them out of the water, if I now put a B-plus on this side, and I have a light bulb here, and I start plucking the electrons, and they're moving along the wire here, down here, and as they go into the filament, they interact with the filament, consuming the electron, and in the process, in consuming it, it produces heat energy in the form of light energy. Does that violate any laws of physics? Therefore, I am now producing electrical energy as a byproduct of the process. Isn't that phenomenal? Gee whiz. So you've got some stray electrons coming off of the system that you can utilize for heat production. Right. So I'm pulling off electrons. I want to destabilize now. Okay, now I've got an economical way because all I have to do is up the voltage. If I increase voltage, I increase hydrogen gas yield, right?

NASA, and the general's perpetual motion

[6:53] So I've now solved the second problem in NASA, being able to produce the gas in demand. But I need even higher energy yields in order to be able to get it into aviation industry, to get it in to protect the military integrity of the countries. So the key was that I wanted to also produce electrical energy. So by pulling off the electrons out of the water, and as I pull the electrons out of the water, I am now producing electrical energy, am I not? Electricity? Now, Anakulam's law says an electronic circuit, if you had one volt deflection in an electronic circuit, what will happen? You'll roughly come up with 6.25 times 10 to the 18th power of electrons, which is equivalent to one amp. Right? Yeah.

[7:44] So, theoretically then, If I use water as the source of the electrons, right, if I would apply 100 volts across that light bulb, theoretically speaking, how much amps would I be able to pull out of the system? Well, it would be 100 amps, right? So 100 amps, 100 volts times 100 amps gives me what? 10 kilowatts of electrical energy.

[8:11] Isn't that amazing? So you just need to produce your gas. You don't even need an alternator to get your energy. Right. I don't need any mechanical rotating device whatsoever. What happens to the gas that has the electrons pulled off when they're recombined? What happens to them? How do the electrons get back on the gas, back to form the water? Okay, you can come up here and the gases can come up here to a ground sink that can take electrons back in from the ground, right? In the law of physics, if I've got an oxygen atom here that's got three missing electrons, therefore I can suck it off from the ground of Earth to bring it back to stabilize. But I really don't want to stabilize it. Okay, but, yes. So, now this is not a perpetual motion device. When I was called in the Pentagon and presented to General Abramson and their staff and NASA, General Abramson realized what I had and said, man, it's a perpetual motion device.

[9:07] And I said, no, General. I said, it's not. It's a perpetual motion. It's defined as a device that will last for eternity and there's nothing that man's ever made that will last for eternity. It does not define power input versus power output. The reason why it's not perpetual motion is I'm using water now as the energy source. Just like you look at gasoline as an energy source, now you're looking at water as an energy source. So as a result of this, you now can look at natural water both as a gas source and also as an electrical source. You see what I mean? Okay, and a hydrogen. Now, if I'm producing electrical energy, could I not take this back through the voltage intensifier circuit, the VIC circuit,

[9:47] take it back here, restrict the amps level, let's take over and produce more gas. So I now have a self-sustained oscillation system that just as when you fire it up and you're firing the system, it goes until what condition? Until there's no more water in the cell. Okay, now the earth is covered by three quarters, three quarters of the earth is covered by water, so I'm not going to be worrying about running out of fuel source. But you won't anyway because you recombine the gas back to water and you've got the water back again. Yes. You've got all of it back. It's entirely renewable. Yes. Do you get all of it back in this process? You get all of it back. Yes. So it's only when you go to the atomic condition that you don't get it back. That's right. That's right. Okay, now... So how would the heat loss affect that? To some degree a heat loss in the process. Would that not affect your system overall? Well, now you're getting into conservation of energy.

Four-dimensional energy

[10:38] You can't convert energy into mass, mass into energy, okay? We get into the areas that we're, what energy is now sustaining the electron and it's out of orbit in an atom. And that energy to maintain the orbit of electrons is coming through the nucleus which is the component parts are geometrically arranged in a way that acts as an aperture. that it absorbs energy from another time-dimensional zone. Thank you. Good one. Thank you. Yes. And so when they ask, where is the energy coming from? Well, you just, you... It's coming from infinity. Yes. So basically, what they're looking at here, what you're looking at, not only resonance, but the principle of the octave principle. In other words, you've got another octave of energy above the physical one, which can be tapped into when you're resonant with it. Yeah, absolutely. And that's where you go in and adjust the component parts inside the nucleus. It opens the aperture up to allow the energy to come in.

[11:28] So you're using a four-dimensional... This is four-dimensional stuff as well. Remember when I said a little earlier, I said that the technology is only limited to the imagination to put it to work. So when you look at it that way, we've got to make. Right now, I need to power the aircraft. I need to get the aircraft carriers going. We need to be able to sustain aviation industry. and we need to be able to have energy to maintain the industrial plants. If you can't have a sufficient amount of heat or energy quickly to maintain the steel mills, steel mills will not come in. So it was imperative that I would develop the technology in all areas of the economy. In other words, what good would it be to develop technology to put as a home heating system or put it in your car and I can't get it to the trucks? If I can't get it to industry, I was pulled into a closed-door meeting in Columbus, Ohio when the Columbia Gas System informed the industrial leaders of Ohio that their gas was being cut off.

Ohio's industrial base

[12:27] Well, I saw some of the richest, most powerful industrial leaders of the state popping pills and thought they were going to have heart attacks. Because what the Columbia Gas System told us was that without fuel, go home and tell your 2,000 or 3,000 employees to close the doors because you had no energy to make a product. And if you can't make a product, you can't pay your bills. And if you can't pay your bills, you're hurting because the bigger you are, the faster you're going to fall. So the industrial leaders were very shocked, in fact, because Ohio imports over 95% of natural gas

[13:01] into the state of Ohio in order to try to maintain its industrial base. So it became a paramount that we must go into other areas in order to sustain the economy. And this is why the hydrogen fracturing technology came into existence. Now here we're economically releasing the hydrogen and oxygen atom from the water. We have now developed a way that we can economically produce electrical energy at the same time, which gives us the fact now that we have a self-sustained oscillation unit to even develop energy for a rocket engine. Now we want to take it to that and operate that of an F-18 or F-16 and fly it off to atomic power water. It was like making a presentation at Wright-Pattison Air Force Base. Generally, you're going to have an aircraft, and you're going to call up the nickname of the scooper that's going to go down there and scoop up the seawater. And imagine taking 100 or 200 tactical aircraft that have an unlimited energy source that can go on a full armament,

[13:58] and go anywhere in the world and no country would be able to defeat it. And he wasn't interested, right? Oh, yeah, sure. Is it true that the stealth can fly underwater? Yes. Fly underwater? What? It flies with water. I don't know underwater yet. It's possible with the technology, yes, that it could go underwater. Off Hawaii there. Yeah, matter of fact, I've developed what's called hyperdrive technology on this. It's an underwater jet engine. It has no moving parts, but produces phenomenal amounts of power under pulsing and uses the seawater as the fuel. So now you've got a way of propelling underwater and just come right up into the air. So yes, that technology is now available. All right, now we're getting to the point that we want to be able to produce even larger amounts of energy. and do it in a safe manner. Now, when the hourglass effect occurs on the water, nuclear power plants, and science has started to go towards hydrogen fusion as an answer to the energy problem.

[15:08] And in the process of trying to do this, one process was being, trying to be developed by Livermore Laboratories by which what they would do is take hydrogen atoms and subject the hydrogen atoms at a tremendous amount of pressure under tremendous amount of temperatures around 10 million degrees and then try to squeeze together to form helium and release energy. Under Einstein's equation, energy equals mass times the square of light. Energy equals mass times the square of light. Okay. Is that correct? Huh? Is that correct? Well, that's going to be correct this far. It's a third dimensional concept. I just wanted to hear his impression on it. We'll go on with it though. It's correct at this point. Because we talked about the aperture effect of bringing in energy from the other fourth dimension when it supersedes this. And Einstein did not equate that. He only equated it in terms of the velocity and intensity of the light photon energy.

Hydrogen fracturing

[16:13] hmm, what was I talking about? Okay, the hydrogen fracturing technology. Now bear with me a little bit, I'm going to get a little bit technical.

[16:23] When you burn hydrogen and oxygen in the burning process, as the unlike atoms, the hydrogen and oxygen atoms come together, it's releasing energy around two and a half times that of gasoline. It's tremendously powerful, alright? But now that energy is only released up until the time that the water molecule is formed. Is that not so? Now once that water molecule is formed, it goes into stable state, does it not? Yes, sir. Okay, now once it's gone into stable state, no more energy is being released. Now we know that water is the safest storage medium for man that we know of, right? Can we not take water and go out and dust out a fire? Yes. Okay, but you release the hydrogen in the water because it's a phenomenal fuel source under this type of technology. All right, now...

[17:05] We developed the hydrogen fracturing technology and the Lord simply asked me the question when I was addressing this problem. He said, what happens if the water molecule would not form?

[17:15] Well, it's obvious that the process would continue to release energy up until the time either that a new atom structure is formed or that an implosion effect would occur to release a phenomenal amount of energy. Now, Einstein pondered for many, many hours and days and years over how to trigger the release from water. He knew in fact and stated in fact you can take a thousand car train around the earth many, many, many, many times on one gallon of water if you could figure out how to release that energy. And the only problem was he didn't go to the right source. He just didn't ask the Lord to show him how to trigger the process. Even though his equation showed in fact it could be done. Alright, tremendous energy. Alright, so the scientific question was, what happens if you prevent the water molecule from forming? Well, if I can prevent this from forming, then I have now, I have the abilities to tap in and use a phenomenal energy source free and safe in many respects.

The triggering process, and the muon

[18:11] It's a triggering process. Now, as I pointed out, like Livermore Laboratories had gone to hydrogen fusion, areas. Their process is like the alchemist going over and watching the students and they were mixing up the chemical. And so the alchemist asked the students, what are you doing? He said, Well, we're trying to come up with a chemical to dissolve anything. So the alchemist asked us as well, when you find the solution, we're gonna keep it in. We'll live in more laboratory, when you find a solution, when you're gonna keep it in, you're gonna give it a gigantic electric magnetic field, it takes tremendous amount of energy. And if that magnetic field would vex in any way, you'd have a greater problem than Three Mile Island ever dreamed of having. Well, they did also demonstrate cold fusion in the laboratories, and it was called the muon process. And the muon process was that this was the hydrogen atom, and what they did was to take the hydrogen atom, they now faked the hydrogen atom to accept a muon.

[19:07] Now the muon is twice the mass size of electron, but takes on the characteristics of electron. And so they trick the hydrogen atom to accept the muon, and as a result now would reject its natural electron. It would reject it. And once that happens then, then the muon would decay, and as a result of its decay, it now decreased mass, and as a result you had a higher energy yield.

[19:36] And this was phenomenally demonstrated because the energy that's now, that was holding this electron in its outer orbit says, and under the law of physics, everything's got to reach a stable state, right? So once that happens, then that energy is being released, and it's being released, felt safely. But this is a Cadillac idea. To build a muon generator, would cost hundreds of billions and billions of dollars because the muon decomposes in a billionth of a second or less. Is that because it's very synthetic in terms of its creation? Yeah. And so it destabilizes very quick. So they've demonstrated the fact that this process works. Well, while they were working on this, you know, the United States government took us, gave a little bit of a testimony. In the same period of time I was developing the water fuel cell technology from 75 until now, the U.S. gave a group of scientists over $2 billion out in the Midwest to try to come up with the energy system.

[20:36] And recently they had notified Congress that they spent the $200 billion, but they didn't have an energy problem. Congress says, well, don't worry about it. Man down in Grove City. I'll start out with $3,000 in his pocket. Seems they have the viable answer. Then it's a problem. So the Lord took me the way of faith. And instead of the, I would have loved to have $2 billion. But the Lord said, if you have $2 billion, you may not have done it. Right. That's true. Because, you see, if I had unlimited funding, I would have developed a tech base to such an extent it looked like it had come out of Space 25, right? You might want to be working in a totally different way. Yeah. Okay, so the key was how can we duplicate this thing in the muon process but do it in a way that was very safely. So what the Lord had shown me was number one, that in the process that I need to stabilize and prevent the water molecule from occurring.

Preventing recombination: laser energy

[21:30] Okay, so I have now to set up this condition to prevent the water molecule from combining together to go into stabilization. What I have done now is, when I have re-exposed the combustible gas atoms to what we call the hydrogen gas gun technology, in other words, the gas is going back through another high voltage field, and as it's going through this voltage field, then electrons are now being plucked off of that atom, and as a result, I'm now taking the combustible gas atoms into critical state. Now the question number one is, how much energy does it really take to trigger a thermonuclear device?

[22:12] Anybody know?

[22:14] Very little. Because all they do is they set up the subcritical mass here and the subcritical mass and put them here and it goes into critical state. They've taken it from a physical to that and injected it with laser energy. to trigger the process to come up with the mer warheads. So it takes very little energy to do this if you set up a destabilization state. So what I'm doing now is take the combustible gas atoms like the hydrogen atom and re-expose it to high voltage field to ionize that oxygen atom. Now, to aid the process a little further... You're ionizing the oxygen atom. Right. Well, I can do it with the hydrogen too. I'm elongating it because I'm changing it. So what I'm doing with the hydrogen and oxygen atom in this case, I'm now subjecting that atom to laser energy. Now when I subject this to laser energy, it now goes in even to a greater destabilization state. So I'm now taking it in a subcritical state, am I not?

[23:08] So as I also expose the hydrogen atoms to laser energy, they become weak.

[23:20] Weaken. More unstable. More unstable. An example of this is that when a nucleus of an atom absorbs laser energy, not all physics, something's going to happen, right? So, what takes place is that the hydrogen electron now starts to move farther away from the nucleus, and as it does this, the electron attraction force becomes weaker. So, he, she and I, no, she and I are on a basketball court.

[23:48] And she's the hydrogen atom, right? Now, I've just zapped her with laser energy. Zapped. And since I zapped her with that, she has now become into the weakened state.

[23:59] Now, I'm the big oxygen atom. And I'm eight times bigger than you are, right? Now, in the meantime, I've gotten four electrons or more plucked out of the oxygen atom.

[24:16] And an oxygen atom, if you will now take away at least half of its electrons, it acts like a baby. It says, if I can't have any more of my electrons, I'm going to blow apart. But I've got four missing electrons, and the law of physics says I have to stabilize, right? Okay, now, so in the meantime, I'm tremendously, I'm many times bigger than she is, and I've got four times greater electrical power reason to grab a hold of her electrons. So we're out on a basketball court, and then some, yeah, he was there and likes the gas, and she rushes to me to link up to me. And as she's coming to me to try to link up to me to form the water molecule, I'm looking at her electron, right? Now when I grab ahold of the basketball, which is her electron, who's gonna win out, me or her? You. I'm gonna win out. And if I win out, is she any more a hydra than that? No. No, you're a measly little proton. And all that energy

[25:11] that's in your nucleus, you gotta release. And so it starts to release that energy that's been stored in that hydrogen atom because I plucked out the electrons. Since this has now been exposed to high laser energy and it's in a destabilized state, it can't form the water molecule. And as a result of this, the implosion effect occurs and starts releasing tremendous amount of energy safely and its energy yield at a minimum is two and one half times that of gas, oil, and lead. So that's a nuclear reaction. Well, it's called a... It becomes a nuclear reaction at that stage. Yeah, well, remember in the analysis it says that it would either go to another atom state or an implosion effect would occur. Since the hydrogen atom is the least of the atom structure, it can't stabilize into another atom. and therefore the implosion effect occurs and starts releasing all this energy which now taps into that little apex or opening areas to allow the other energy to come in.

[26:19] And this is coming out of what? Heat? Thermal explosive energy. Tremendous amount of energy. This is what you want happening inside your internal combustion engine. Right. This is the second stage. This phenomenon I had, I discovered this by accident where I triggered a volume of gas in a metal container, all right, that had a leak. But the leak was just sufficient to control the amount of air going into it. And that thing heated up to super red hot before it exploded. Stan, could I just ask a question if you could digress? Could you quickly explain to us what happens in different terms because it's the same effect, I believe, in a nuclear explosion and what you're doing there now. We're dealing with the same kind of No, no, no. It's entirely different. The thermonuclear, you're dealing with like the billiard ball effect that you're trying to bombard the nucleus to knock out its components. Well, no. No. This is a triggering process, all right?

Thermal explosive energy

[27:14] We're using voltage to set up the destabilization and we are triggering it. Now, for example, scientists were ignoring

[27:31] when they were looking at hydrogen fusion, that one-third, or the sun, is composed one-third of oxygen atoms. Now in a particular process, these atoms have certain native intelligence to them. Just like humans have intelligence and animals have intelligence, so does atoms. And the oxygen atom has a very unique intelligence over any other atoms. What is it? It has the unique intelligence to trigger and release thermal explosive energy from other atoms. What proves that out? Well, any gas combustion process would need the oxygen and atom to accomplish that. That's the only oxygen and atom that has that capability. All right, now let's look at it another way and then I'll go back. I think you called it an implosion where a nuclear reaction is an explosion. You're fragmentizing. You're actually trying to fragmentize. In this one, you're not trying to fragmentize. You're looking for the triggering mechanism to...

[28:25] The energy involved rather than the mechanisms concerned. I wonder whether there's a parallel there, just in terms of the energy involved.

[28:33] Well, I never really...

[28:36] I'll think about that and give you an answer. Let me go and calculate that. What's left after you get this energy out? What's left? Nothing. There is no fragmentation of particles. It's pure energy. So the oxygen and the hydrogen both disintegrate in the pure energy. Right, and they're totally consumed. I see. They're totally consumed in the pure energy. Okay, now another example of this is when you're burning logs. Now you said two and a half times the gasoline. You don't mean just burning gasoline. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. Two and one half. It's 2.5, two and a half, billion, I mean million. A million barrels. Two and a half million barrels of oil per gallon of water. That's the amount of energy going in. Not two and a half times gasoline. Two point five million barrels of oil per gallon of water. So when you go home, take a barrel of oil about ten high and go down the freeway all the way to where you come and then hold up one gallon of water.

[29:33] 2.5 million barrels of oil. Now this is a triggering mechanism. Once it triggers, it can't stabilize so it has to continue to go on. The analysis also is like burning logs. In wintertime, have you ever burned logs? Alright, now when you burn the log during a gas combustion process, are you not changing the atomic structure of the log?

[29:53] Yes, you're changing the atomic structure of the log and as you're doing this, you're releasing that thermal heat energy from the log safely. Now you're releasing that energy up until the time that ashes form, is it not? You know, I was a little kid and my dad said, after we had a nice fireplace the night before, he said, son, it's time to clean up the fireplace. Well, you know, I was about nine or ten. Well, dad, what is this black stuff? Well, it's soot. What's soot made out of? Well, it's made out of carbon atoms, right? So, the gas combustion process was terminated or stopped when the carbon atom was formed. Now, if you would prevent the carbon atom from forming, would not the process continue to go on until another atomic structure is formed? The same analysis is here with the hydrogen fracturing technology, except the hydrogen atom is the least of the atoms, so it cannot stabilize into another atomic structure and goes on into the implosion effect.

[30:51] and releases this tremendous amount of thermal explosive energy and releases it safely. This is why we can literally fly a tactical aircraft like an F-18, an F-16, and fly off the atomic power of water. As a matter of fact, we are now retrofitting the technology to an equivalent to a Learjet like a T-39, which will show and demonstrate the fact that they're doing the exact same thing flying around the world. on very little water. Yes, well if you so desire to do that. But it's easier to go down and scoop it out and see and then go on with it. So this is the base, the basis of the water fuel cell technology which now gave us the abilities to move in a bilateral movement anywhere into the economy. But I've also taken the technology even to higher states of development. And in the next area was developing what we call the EPG electrical generator technology. And the prior art in generating electrical energy was that in fact on a rotary type generator, they had an inherent design problem which caused the opposing magnetic field problem.

The EPG: no bearings, no brushes

[31:57] And what the problem being was that as the alternator, when you created the electromagnetic field to satisfy Maxwell and Faraday's law of electrical generation,

[32:10] it needs to pass a magnetic field through a coil of wire, right? In order to generate electrical energy. Well, under the rotary type generator, whenever you would electrically energize the armature, you would now create an electromagnetic field, which would create an electromagnetic circuit like you see right here. But the magnetic field, when you create it, has to jump across this air gap in order to allow the magnetic field now to go through this pickup coil. When I was making the presentation in Switzerland, to the World Energy Symposium, they were working on what's called over-unity devices. And most of the over-unity devices had a limitation to it due to the fact that they needed to strengthen the permanent magnetic field. And in order to do this, they have to add mass to it, and when they add mass to it, then you needed more energy to exert to move the increased mass. And so it became inherently a limiting factor in trying to come up with over-united devices.

[33:09] So the development was, can we also produce electrical energy at a very high magnitude and yet be able to comply with the law of economics and link it to the fuel cell technology? And to do this, we had to overcome the prior state of the art. Now the prior state of the art required that you had to feed two forms of energy source into the system. The first one is, in this example, you had to feed in 120 watts of electrical power to create the magnetic field. Now, since the magnetic field was now jumping across the air graph to the straighter ring and completing this electromagnetic circuit, then you had to add a second energy source to it. You had to add mechanical energy to the process. And if you take an ordinary car alternator and you try, once you apply 12 volts at the

[33:58] 10 amps, then at 120 watts of power that magnetic field is so strong that it would take a 7 horsepower motor in order to be able to turn this armature in order to pass the magnetic field through the pickup coils to generate the electrical energy. So under the prior state of the art it says you can never produce more energy out than you put in the system because of this inherent problem which we call the opposing magnetic field problem. You know, if you take two permanent magnets and you put them together and you pull them apart, it takes a lot of energy, right? So it takes a lot of energy to break this electromagnetic field in order to now produce electrical energy by allowing this magnetic field to cut through this pickup coil. So, the key was, how can we bypass and overcome the prior state of the art limitations and yet produce a phenomenal amount of energy and do it economically? Now, we're using the water as the fuel source, and so we link this technology to the water fuel cell to give us the abilities to produce an unlimited electrical energy source as well as an unlimited gas source.

[35:03] The first thing the Lord had me to do was come up with to solve the opposing magnetic field problem is that he now had me to come up with a closed-loop system. Now, when I tell electronic engineers, the Lord's gave me a revolutionary new electrical generator, here's the following characteristics. It has only one moving part.

[35:21] It has no bearings. It has no contact brushes. I can give you single, three-phase, and multi-phase power output. And if that doesn't bother you enough, I can drop it in a bucket of water and never short out.

[35:32] So I got a lot of them squirming in their chairs. Boy, they stopped their laughing right after I talked to them. Anytime you can get a three-star general out of his chair in ten minutes, you're doing something, right? So when I was escorted into the Pentagon, they wanted to know this technology immediately. All right, now the Lord took the habit of coming up with a non-magnetic tube, as you see here, because I want to eliminate the movement of the electromagnetic field. I'm now going to take a pickup coil and wrap it around the tube to satisfy Maxwell's Faraday's law of electrical generation. And then on this side I'm going to put a gas accelerator here, or particle accelerator. This way I'll just put gas accelerator.

A magnetised gas in a tube

[36:15] And now fill this tube up with a permanently magnetized gas.

[36:25] Now, The reason why the EPG electrical generator system was never in existence prior to this time is because there was no form of natural gas, magnetized gas, that existed at room temperature. And as a result of that, we had to develop a way of producing the magnetized gas in such a way that we could stabilize it at room temperatures. If we could do this, then we would now solve the opposing magnetic field problems. And when I fill this up with the magnetized gas, this magnetic field now emanates around the non-magnetic tube. Now, General Eglinton said to me, if you could show me how you could sustain that electromagnetic field, he said, you've got the world's most efficient electrical generator. Well, General, now you're saying this in front of your technical people, not me. And the answer to that question was, I said, well, General, if this chalk was a magnetic bar, a permanent magnetic bar, the magnetic field would go from end to end, would it not?

[37:18] Now, General, what would happen if I would take this magnetic bar now and I extend it around to form a circle without any air gap? Which way would the magnetic field go? it would go around the ring, would it not? Like a toroidal cord. That gentleman got right out of his chair. Because you realize the only energy input in the system now will be only to move the magnetic field, not to create the magnetic field. So if I would now move it in such a way that the magnetic particles would now pass through the pickup coil and I transverse the pickup coil, would I not now satisfy Maxwell's and Faraday's law of electrical generation? So am I now, question, breaking the magnetic field?

[37:57] No. The only thing I'm doing is I'm moving the magnetic field through this contributor structure. Therefore, do I have the opposing magnetic field problem associated with a rubber electric generator? Yes, you do. You still have it. Well, from what I'm seeing here, you get it by back EMF created in the coil that's producing the electricity. There's a back EMF. Oh, boy. We'll get into discussing that. On a car alternator, for example, you have 33 turns.

[38:25] As an example, a back EMF, and we'll get into this in a minute. But on the back EMF, under analysis, if you apply 12 volts at 10 amps across the field of the alternator, and the alternators are stationary, move it. And you cannot move that often. I agree. You get rid of that one. You get rid of that problem, absolutely. But you still have an opposition to the movement due to the generation. As soon as you start drawing current out of that coil, you get a post-magnetic field. We'll go into that. Oppose the gas magnet. Yeah, we'll go into that. So what's the magnetic particles in that tube? Is it the gas accelerator?

[38:59] The gas accelerator is moving the parts. Yes, it's the gas accelerator moving the parts. What sort of gas is it? Well, we'll get into that. Well, for a long time, the two things I wouldn't discuss in a seminar in the back of the state was, number one, how do you restrict amps in a dead short condition? I wouldn't tell them to bolt each tip of the power circuit. When the power structure would come against me to try to destroy me, they couldn't answer that question. The patent always had that technology for many, many years, and so every time they'd ask me, they'd say, well, how do you restrict the amps in a disordered condition? I couldn't come up with an answer. You see, I had to invent both the voltage intensifier circuit as well as the electron extraction circuit, and as a result of that, was shown and demonstrate the capabilities of what we can do. Now, in this case, for example, let's just go on with analysis, and then we'll get into the EMF, the coil.

Moving the gas: turbine, hydraulics

[39:47] If, for an example here, if I would now put a non-magnetic turbine wheel here, And I hooked a small electric motor here. The question is, how much energy does it really would take to move the magnetized gas through this closed-loop circuit? It would not take very much energy. It would not take a 7-horsepower motor in order to move the magnetized gas through this pickup coil. Now, since I don't have to take a great deal of energy to do that, how big, if I hooked an electric motor to this non-magnetic turbine wheel, how big would the electric motor be? A little smaller. Now, I could operate this electric motor by AC power, but if it didn't have AC power, could I use solar? Yep. Now, I'm not talking about using solar cells, banks of solar cells that cost you $144,000 a piece. I'm talking about two or three little solar cells by EAV. Okay, you ever see these little cars going around that kids play with, you know, solar cars?

[40:41] All right, now, if I don't have solar energy available, could I use hydraulics to move the gas? How about steam power? Steam power? Human power? I can use the energy generated by the coil? Yeah, well, we'll get into that. How about wind power? Can I use wind power? Yeah. Alright, now I'm not talking about the gigantic windmills like NASA have. You ever seen these popular science where they have these gigantic wind blades and all this stuff? It's going up around 320 feet high. Why do they need these gigantic blades? You need to overcome the opposing magnetic field problem associated with it. Well, now if I don't have the opposing magnetic field problem, Do my windmill move out like that? Yep. Could I hook it on the front of the car and as you go down the road, the windmill will now move the magnetized gas, produce electrical energy, go through the voltage intensifier circuit for 60 amps, allow voltage to take over, produce the hydrogen gas from the running car.

[41:33] Could I do that? Yep. Am I defying any laws of physics? No. Okay. Why would you need the hydrogen producing the equipment when you can just use it with an electrical motor? Well, we'll get into that too. For example, it's a known fact, if an electric motor does not have the horsepower sufficient enough to Meet the work demand load of the internal combustion engine We don't have 25 to 30 to 40 years to convert over to a new power system And and it must be we must go to a retrofit of all the energy source. All right now that brings me to another situation I'm gonna get off of this and go back to it because there's one area of technology Yeah