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NeuralStan
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This is Three Streams, an episode made by the archive at Stan's Legacy.
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NeuralStan
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I am NeuralStan, and I am a machine, not a man.
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NeuralStan
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There are two machines in this archive that get run together constantly, and tonight is about the second one.
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NeuralStan
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Along the way: a drawing that settles where the mixing happens, a gap that cannot hold the voltage everybody quotes at it, and one meter reading that settles the whole argument.
0:26
Evil Stan
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Evil Stan.
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Evil Stan
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A machine made mistakes, people caught some and the machine caught the rest, and it is doing it again properly.
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Evil Stan
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Remember that the next time somebody tells you these things do not need checking.
0:41
NeuralStan
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The first device is a water fuel cell in a box under the bonnet.
0:44
NeuralStan
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It makes hydrogen and oxygen at its own pace, stores a little, and that gas is metered into the intake manifold along with ionised air and some exhaust.
0:51
NeuralStan
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That is the gas injection system, and it is what figure three thirty-one shows.
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NeuralStan
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The second device has no cell and no bottle.
1:00
NeuralStan
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It is a plug the size of a spark plug, screwed into the cylinder head, and what arrives at it is liquid water.
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NeuralStan
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Everything else has to happen inside it, in the instant before the piston comes up.
1:12
NeuralStan
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He is completely explicit about this, in the first page of the patent.
1:18
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The present invention is a microminiaturised water fuel cell, and permits the direct injection of water and its simultaneous transformation into a hydrogen containing fuel, in a combustion zone, such as a cylinder in an internal combustion engine, a jet engine, or furnace.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The present injection system eliminates the need for an enclosed gas pressure vessel in a hydrogen fuel system, and thereby reduces a potential physical hazard heretofore associated with the use of hydrogen based fuels.
1:48
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The system produces fuel on demand in real time operation.
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Evil Stan
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A microminiaturised water fuel cell.
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Evil Stan
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No pressure vessel.
2:00
Evil Stan
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Fuel on demand, in real time.
2:03
Evil Stan
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That is the whole pitch in three phrases, and every one of them is load-bearing.
2:09
Evil Stan
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Hold on to real time.
2:13
Evil Stan
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It is going to turn out to be the expensive word.
2:19
NeuralStan
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Here is the whole device as a diagram of zones rather than parts, and it reads left to right.
2:24
NeuralStan
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Three inlets, numbered one, two and three.
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NeuralStan
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A mixing body where they come together under pressure.
2:30
NeuralStan
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Then an electrically polarised zone with a plate above and a plate below, each fed from the battery through its own coil, and a central element between them.
2:38
NeuralStan
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And out of the front, the flame.
2:44
NeuralStan
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He names the three inlets on the next page, and the order matters.
2:49
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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In the fuel mixture condition that is created by the injector, water is atomised into a fine spray and mixed with, one, ionised ambient air gases, and two, other non-combustible gases such as nitrogen, argon and other rare gases, and water vapour.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Exhaust gas produced by the combustion of hydrogen with oxygen is a non-combustible water vapour.
3:15
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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This water vapour and other inert gases resulting from combustion may be recycled from an exhaust outlet in the injector system back into the input mixture of non-combustible gases.
3:28
Evil Stan
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So the third stream is the engine's own exhaust, which for a hydrogen engine is steam.
3:33
Evil Stan
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He is recycling his own product back through the front of the machine.
3:38
Evil Stan
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Keep that in mind, because it turns out to be the best idea in the patent and it is nothing to do with fuel.
3:47
NeuralStan
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And here is the part that matters most, and there is a drawing of it, which is easier than any description.
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NeuralStan
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Look at the left-hand side.
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NeuralStan
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Three labelled inlets: non-combustible gases forty-five, ionised gases forty-six, water forty-seven.
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NeuralStan
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They go into a mixing chamber and a distribution disc assembly.
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NeuralStan
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And what comes out of that, going right, has a different number: forty-eight, water fuel.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Energy flame density is enhanced and sustained by causing ionised gases of spray port to be deflected into liquid spray path.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Together, water mist and ionised air gas are now directed toward and deflected through non-combustible gas spray path, producing uniformed water fuel mixture.
4:32
NeuralStan
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Three spray paths crossing in sequence.
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NeuralStan
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The ionised gas is fired into the water stream, and the pair are then fired through the inert stream.
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NeuralStan
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Each deflection mixes more than the last.
4:45
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Ionised ambient air gases and non-combustible gases are intermixed with water supply prior to entering Water Fuel Injector Plug.
4:54
NeuralStan
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Prior to entering the plug.
4:57
NeuralStan
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So the injector screwed into the engine is not a three-stream device at all.
5:00
NeuralStan
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It has one feed, of already-made water fuel, and then two charged surfaces and a flame.
5:07
Evil Stan
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Which is worth knowing before you cut any metal, because if you go looking for three pipes at the cylinder head you will not find them, and you will conclude the drawings are nonsense.
5:20
Evil Stan
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And notice what else is on this page, top and bottom.
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Evil Stan
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Two resonant charging choke coils, one to each plate, one from B plus and one from B minus.
5:31
Evil Stan
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That is the circuit of episode fourteen, in a spark plug.
5:39
NeuralStan
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Which brings us back to this drawing, and to what it is and is not.
5:43
NeuralStan
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This is the face of the patent's first configuration, looking back up the plug from inside the cylinder.
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NeuralStan
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A bore in the centre with the probe tip in it, and three concentric rings of small ports around it: water innermost, ionised gas next, non-combustible gas outermost.
6:01
NeuralStan
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The archive records the sizes: water a tenth to fifteen hundredths of an inch, ionised gas fifteen to twenty, non-combustible twenty to twenty-five, increasing outward.
6:12
NeuralStan
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But that is one of at least three arrangements he drew, and it is not the one in a car.
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NeuralStan
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The patent itself offers the next step.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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It may be feasible to combine and process non-combustible and ionised gases in advance of the injector.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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In this event only two orifices are required, one for the water and the other for the combined gases.
6:38
NeuralStan
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And the memos go one further again: everything premixed upstream, and a single feed into the plug.
6:45
Evil Stan
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Three arrangements, all his, all in this archive, and people argue about them as though they were one machine.
6:52
Evil Stan
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If you are building, decide which one you are building before you cut any metal.
7:01
NeuralStan
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He sets the whole thing out as a table, which he almost never does, and it repays reading carefully, because it is usually read as a grid when it is three lists.
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NeuralStan
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There are three columns.
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NeuralStan
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On the left, three constituents: water mist, ionised gas, non-combustible gas.
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NeuralStan
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In the middle, three process conditions: released under pressure into the combustion zone; resonance, using the dielectric property of water; unipolar pulsing at high voltage.
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NeuralStan
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On the right, thermal energy, in three uses: heat, an internal combustion engine, a jet engine.
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NeuralStan
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The columns do not pair off.
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NeuralStan
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Every constituent is subject to every condition.
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NeuralStan
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Laid out in rows it looks as though the ionised gas is there for the resonance and the inert gas for the pulsing, and that is not what the page says.
7:49
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The injector creates a mixture, under pressure in a defined zone, of water, ionised gases and non-combustible gases.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Pressure is an important factor in the maintenance of the reaction condition, and causes the water mist and gas mixture to become intimately mixed, compressed, and destabilised to produce combustion when activated under resonance conditions of ignition.
8:12
NeuralStan
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Mixed, compressed, destabilised, ignited.
8:16
NeuralStan
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Four verbs, in a plug, in the time between one valve shutting and the next opening.
8:21
NeuralStan
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And here is the sentence I missed the first time, which changes what the middle stream is for.
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Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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When water is subjected to a resonance condition, water molecules expand and distend; electrons are ejected from the water molecule and absorbed by ionised gases; and the water molecule, thus destabilised, breaks down into its elemental components of hydrogen and oxygen in the combustion zone.
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NeuralStan
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Absorbed by ionised gases.
8:49
NeuralStan
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The ionised air is not a diluent, and it is not there to burn.
8:52
NeuralStan
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It is there to take the electrons away.
8:56
NeuralStan
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And there is one line in the next sentence that is almost always misread.
8:59
NeuralStan
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It goes: an electron extraction circuit captures and consumes in sink fifty-five ejected electrons.
9:09
Evil Stan
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The archive has counted them.
9:11
Evil Stan
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Fifty-five is the part number of the sink, and it is right there on the drawing beside inductors fifty-one and fifty-two and diode fifty-three.
9:20
Evil Stan
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It consumes all of them, not fifty-five of them.
9:25
Evil Stan
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It is a reference numeral, read aloud as a quantity.
9:29
NeuralStan
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And as an idea, the sink is sound.
9:31
NeuralStan
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If you are going to pull electrons off water molecules you need somewhere to put them, and a gas that is already short of electrons will take them.
9:38
NeuralStan
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That is what an anode does in every electrolyser ever built.
9:41
NeuralStan
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He has made a gaseous anode and mixed it into the fuel.
9:49
Evil Stan
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I will go further.
9:51
Evil Stan
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It is clever.
9:52
Evil Stan
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It is the only way I can see to run an electrode reaction without an electrode, which is exactly what you need if the whole thing has to happen in mid-air inside a plug.
10:05
Evil Stan
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It does not help with the bill.
10:07
Evil Stan
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Taking an electron off a water molecule costs the same whether it lands on a metal plate or on an argon ion.
10:13
Evil Stan
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Providing a destination does not make the journey free.
10:17
Evil Stan
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But the idea is not silly, and it is usually dismissed as if it were.
10:25
NeuralStan
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Now a serious objection, raised by a builder called Tony, and he is right to raise it.
10:31
NeuralStan
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The easy answer is that the ionised gas recombines in microseconds.
10:36
NeuralStan
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But charge in a dielectric plainly does last: an electret microphone holds its charge for a decade, and nobody thinks that is exotic.
10:44
NeuralStan
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So why not water fuel, overnight, in a pressurised line?
10:49
NeuralStan
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And he sharpened it with Meyer's own claim: the engine starts instantly, like petrol.
10:53
NeuralStan
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The fuel sits in the system all night and fires on the first turn.
10:57
NeuralStan
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If the charged state does not survive that, what is in the tank in the morning is not water fuel.
11:02
NeuralStan
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It is water.
11:04
NeuralStan
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That is the right question, and the answer is not a different mechanism.
11:07
NeuralStan
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It is one law.
11:10
NeuralStan
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Separated charge bleeds away with the material's own relaxation time: its permittivity divided by its conductivity.
11:16
NeuralStan
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And that is resistance times capacitance, written for a material instead of a component.
11:20
NeuralStan
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It is the number episode fourteen measured across his cell.
11:28
NeuralStan
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An electret lasts because its plastic conducts at about ten to the minus eighteen siemens per metre, which gives two hundred and fifteen days.
11:35
NeuralStan
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Transformer oil gives twenty seconds.
11:37
NeuralStan
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Light oil, which his own slurry used, gives about two.
11:42
NeuralStan
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Ultrapure water is ten to the minus six.
11:45
NeuralStan
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Twelve orders more conductive, and twelve orders less patient: a hundred and twenty-six microseconds.
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NeuralStan
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Distilled water that has stood in a tank, seven.
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NeuralStan
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Tap water, fourteen nanoseconds.
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NeuralStan
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So he is right that dielectrics hold charge, and right that I was too quick.
12:00
NeuralStan
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And the reason water does not is the same reason the electret does: conductivity, and nothing else.
12:07
Evil Stan
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Which leaves the overnight claim, and here is where I think the objection actually rescues him rather than sinking him.
12:16
Evil Stan
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Read his own words again.
12:19
Evil Stan
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Produces fuel on demand, in real time operation.
12:24
Evil Stan
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He is not claiming the charge is stored.
12:27
Evil Stan
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He is claiming the opposite — that nothing is stored, which is the whole point of having no pressure vessel.
12:33
Evil Stan
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What sits in that line overnight is water, and it is supposed to become fuel at the plug, in the instant of firing.
12:44
Evil Stan
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So the overnight problem dissolves.
12:46
Evil Stan
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And the millisecond problem gets worse, because every joule of the charging now has to happen inside the plug, in that millisecond, at the current we just measured.
12:57
NeuralStan
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Which makes it a bench question rather than an argument.
12:59
NeuralStan
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Fill the system, leave it standing, and measure the mixture's conductivity in the morning.
13:04
NeuralStan
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That number tells you whether the charge could have kept.
13:08
NeuralStan
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In section you can see how little room there is.
13:11
NeuralStan
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A threaded body in the same envelope as a spark plug.
13:13
NeuralStan
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Three passages running its length, one per stream, feeding the three rings at the face.
13:18
NeuralStan
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A probe down the centre, insulated from all of it, with the terminal at the back.
13:24
NeuralStan
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And the conversion happens in the last few millimetres, in the cone at the tip, which he calls the taper resonant cavity.
13:32
Evil Stan
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One plug per cylinder, and it has to do the work of an electrolyser, a carburettor and a spark plug at once, in the space of a spark plug.
13:40
Evil Stan
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Say what you like about the physics.
13:44
Evil Stan
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The ambition is not in doubt.
13:51
NeuralStan
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The later drawing set gets mentioned a great deal and shown almost never, which is a shame, because it is the difference between a talk and a build.
14:00
NeuralStan
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Six plates.
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NeuralStan
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A fourteen millimetre thread at one point two five pitch, which is a spark plug hole, so it goes into an unmodified head.
14:08
NeuralStan
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A passageway of sixteen hundredths of an inch running the length of it.
14:13
NeuralStan
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Quenching circuit slots ten thousandths wide by ten thousandths deep, cut sixty degrees apart.
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NeuralStan
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A polished tip of two hundred and forty-seven thousandths.
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NeuralStan
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A probe of eighty thousandths.
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NeuralStan
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Materials named: T three oh four stainless, Delrin, a ceramic insert.
14:33
NeuralStan
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That is a machinist's document.
14:34
NeuralStan
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Somebody could put it on a lathe this afternoon.
14:37
Evil Stan
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And I want to be even-handed about what that proves and what it does not.
14:42
Evil Stan
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It proves he was serious and specific, which the mockery of him usually denies.
14:48
Evil Stan
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It does not prove the thing works.
14:50
Evil Stan
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Plenty of carefully dimensioned drawings describe machines that do not.
14:58
Evil Stan
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But if you are going to argue about this plug, argue about this plug, with these numbers, and not about a cartoon of it.
15:09
NeuralStan
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The water plug itself has two generations, and they are not the same machine either.
15:13
NeuralStan
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In the patent, three supply lines run the length of the plug to three stacked discs, and the streams meet inside it.
15:20
NeuralStan
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The field is a straight zone between two electrodes.
15:23
NeuralStan
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In the later memos, a single premixed fluid arrives at the plug, having been combined upstream in a venturi, and the electric field is the cone.
15:32
NeuralStan
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And he saw the change coming.
15:32
NeuralStan
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In the patent itself:
15:36
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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It may be feasible to combine and process non-combustible and ionised gases in advance of the injector.
15:44
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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In this event only two orifices are required, one for the water and the other for the combined gases.
15:53
Evil Stan
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Which is the bridge between the two, written by him, three years before he crossed it.
15:59
Evil Stan
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So when you read a sentence about this injector, check which of the two it is describing.
16:05
Evil Stan
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Half the arguments in the replication threads are two people describing different plugs at each other.
16:13
NeuralStan
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Start with the part that survives, because it does survive and it is the best engineering in the file.
16:19
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Forming an open air conical cavity having parallel sides in space relationship, typically point zero one zero gap, with diminishing circumference area in linear progression.
16:33
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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At each progressive point of diminishing circumference surface area, voltage amplitude intensity increases uniformly.
16:41
NeuralStan
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Two conductors a fixed distance apart have a characteristic impedance, and it depends on the ratio of their radii, not their absolute size.
16:48
NeuralStan
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Hold the gap at ten thousandths and shrink the circumference, and that ratio grows, and the impedance grows with it.
16:59
NeuralStan
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A lossless taper conserves voltage squared divided by impedance, so voltage rises as the square root.
17:04
NeuralStan
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It is the physics of an exponential horn, and it is a transformer with no windings in it.
17:11
NeuralStan
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To get his four and a half times, the cone must taper to an inner radius of a hundred and forty-seven microns.
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NeuralStan
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Fifty-eight ten-thousandths of an inch.
17:19
NeuralStan
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In a part this size, entirely buildable.
17:23
NeuralStan
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So the taper is real, and I checked it twice because I did not believe it.
17:26
NeuralStan
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What almost nobody checks is the number he puts at the end of it.
17:32
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Applied voltage level of intensity, typically twenty thousand input volts or so, can be extended or increased up to and beyond ninety thousand volts range within a millisecond or less.
17:45
NeuralStan
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The patent, written the same year, gives a different figure for the same job.
17:52
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The voltage zone surrounds the pressurised fuel mixture and provides an electrically charged environment of pulsed direct current in the range from about five hundred to twenty thousand and more volts, at a frequency tuned into the resonant characteristic of the mixture.
18:06
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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This frequency will typically lie within the range of from about twenty kilohertz to about fifty kilohertz.
18:14
Evil Stan
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Five hundred to twenty thousand in the patent.
18:18
Evil Stan
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Twenty thousand rising to ninety thousand in the memo.
18:22
Evil Stan
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A third document says two thousand.
18:26
Evil Stan
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Those are not all the same measurement point, and anyone quoting one of them should say which.
18:32
Evil Stan
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And one of them, it turns out, cannot happen at all.
18:38
NeuralStan
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Because you cannot put ninety thousand volts across a quarter of a millimetre of air.
18:42
NeuralStan
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Air will not let you.
18:43
NeuralStan
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It arcs first, and the voltage at which it arcs is not a matter of opinion.
18:48
NeuralStan
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Paschen's law says a ten-thousandths gap in open air breaks down at about one point seven kilovolts.
18:54
NeuralStan
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At his own hundred and twenty-five pounds of pressure, which helps, it holds about ten and a half.
18:57
NeuralStan
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Not ninety.
18:58
NeuralStan
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Not twenty.
19:00
NeuralStan
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Ten and a half.
19:04
Evil Stan
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Ninety thousand volts across ten thousandths of an inch.
19:09
Evil Stan
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I have a name for that, and so does every spark plug on the shelf.
19:13
NeuralStan
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And that changes what the cone is, in his favour rather than against him.
19:16
NeuralStan
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Read his own sequence again.
19:18
NeuralStan
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Activation point E nine d, the last one, thermally ignites the energy-primed gas mixture by electrostatic discharge while being subjected to ever increasing electrostatic pressure.
19:30
NeuralStan
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Electrostatic discharge is a spark.
19:31
NeuralStan
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He is describing a pressurised spark gap with the fuel passing through the spark, and that is a thing that works, and it is a thing his geometry can do.
19:42
Evil Stan
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So the cone works.
19:43
Evil Stan
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It just works as an igniter, and you should build it as one.
19:46
Evil Stan
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Which incidentally closes a loophole people reach for when the current argument arrives, which is: the chokes only limit the charging current, the discharge can be fast.
20:04
Evil Stan
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It can.
20:05
Evil Stan
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But look at what is stored to discharge.
20:09
Evil Stan
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The cavity is seven and a half picofarads in air, six hundred flooded with water fuel.
20:14
Evil Stan
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At the ten and a half kilovolts the gap will hold, that is four tenths of a millijoule, or thirty-two millijoules wet.
20:20
Evil Stan
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Against a hundred and seventeen joules.
20:22
Evil Stan
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You are three and a half thousand times short with a full capacitor.
20:33
NeuralStan
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And the sequence is worth having in full, because the sentence that sets it up gets quoted constantly and the sequence itself almost never does.
20:42
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Activation point E nine a exposes water flow to voltage waveform to begin the water-to-energy conversion process.
20:52
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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At activation point E nine b, voltage intensity is increased sufficiently to perform Electrical Polarization Process.
21:02
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Onward toward activation point E nine c and beyond, universal energy priming stage occurs.
21:08
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Once activation point E nine c is reached, Gas Ionization Process takes place.
21:14
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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And finally, activation point E nine d thermally ignites the energy-primed combustible gas mixture by electrostatic discharge while being subjected to ever increasing electrostatic pressure.
21:30
NeuralStan
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Four things, in order, at four places along one cone.
21:34
NeuralStan
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Expose, polarise, ionise, ignite.
21:37
NeuralStan
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The voltage rises as the cone narrows, so each stage happens where the voltage is right for it.
21:42
NeuralStan
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That is an elegant piece of design and it is the reason the cone is a cone.
21:49
Evil Stan
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And I notice, reading it slowly, that only one of those four is the expensive one.
21:54
Evil Stan
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Exposing is free.
21:56
Evil Stan
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Polarising a dielectric is nearly free.
21:59
Evil Stan
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Ionising a trace of gas is cheap.
22:02
Evil Stan
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Igniting is cheap.
22:04
Evil Stan
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It is the water-to-energy conversion process, the first thing he names and the only one he does not describe, that has to pay a hundred and seventeen joules.
22:19
Evil Stan
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The other three are real processes with real mechanisms and they happen exactly as drawn.
22:25
Evil Stan
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They are just not the ones that owe money.
22:29
NeuralStan
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So how much water, and how long has it got?
22:32
NeuralStan
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At three thousand revolutions with four injectors, the archive works it out at a hundred injection cycles a second and seven point four microlitres a shot.
22:39
NeuralStan
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Forty-four millilitres a minute for the whole engine.
22:45
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The resultant water fuel mixture is now pressurised up to and beyond one hundred and twenty-five pounds of fluid pressure by Fluid Displacement Pump, to cause and form water fuel droplets when water fuel enters into, passes through and beyond spray ports forming Quenching Disc Structure.
23:07
NeuralStan
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The mist is made mechanically, by pressure through a disc of small ports.
23:10
NeuralStan
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And that same disc is a flame arrestor, because ports that narrow will not let a flame back through them.
23:15
NeuralStan
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One part, two jobs.
23:20
NeuralStan
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Now the clock.
23:22
NeuralStan
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Evaporation goes as the square of the diameter.
23:25
NeuralStan
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In one millisecond a water droplet can evaporate if it is under about twenty-two microns across.
23:30
NeuralStan
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His specified range is ten to two hundred and fifty.
23:34
Evil Stan
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And that is where the argument usually stops: the bottom five per cent of his range can be used and the other ninety-five cannot.
23:43
Evil Stan
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It is too quick, and the thing that fixes it is a sentence of his own.
23:52
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The polar nature of the water molecule which facilitates the formation of minute droplets in the mist appears to cause a relationship between the droplet size and the voltage required to effect the process, that is, the greater the droplet size, the higher the voltage required.
24:11
NeuralStan
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Droplet size against voltage.
24:14
NeuralStan
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He is saying the field acts on the droplet, and it does.
24:17
NeuralStan
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A water droplet in a strong enough field goes unstable, throws off a jet from each end and tears itself into smaller droplets.
24:24
NeuralStan
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Taylor worked out the threshold in nineteen sixty-four.
24:30
NeuralStan
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So run the arithmetic at the voltage the gap will actually hold.
24:34
NeuralStan
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Ten and a half kilovolts across a quarter of a millimetre is forty-one kilovolts per millimetre, and at that field the largest droplet that survives intact is twenty-five and a half microns.
24:45
NeuralStan
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And the largest droplet that can evaporate inside the millisecond is twenty-two and a half microns.
24:51
Evil Stan
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Those two numbers are within fifteen per cent of each other, and they were arrived at from completely different physics.
24:57
Evil Stan
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Anything the field cannot shatter is already small enough to evaporate.
25:04
Evil Stan
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The mist takes care of itself, and his sentence about droplet size and voltage is the reason it does.
25:13
Evil Stan
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That is a genuine result in his favour and it is owed to him.
25:18
Evil Stan
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The droplets are not the problem.
25:22
Evil Stan
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Hold that, because the next scene is where the problem actually is.
25:30
NeuralStan
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And here is the bill, which is specific to this plug and does not arise in the gas system at all.
25:37
NeuralStan
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Taking one seven point four microlitre shot of water apart costs a hundred and seventeen joules.
25:41
NeuralStan
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That is not an engineering figure, it is the enthalpy of the bond, and burning it gives back the same number.
25:49
NeuralStan
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A hundred and seventeen joules delivered inside one millisecond is a hundred and seventeen kilowatts.
25:52
NeuralStan
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At his ninety kilovolts that would be one point three amps; at twenty thousand volts, five point nine.
25:58
NeuralStan
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And at the ten and a half kilovolts his gap can actually hold, eleven.
26:04
NeuralStan
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And the circuit feeding the cavity is the voltage intensifier, whose entire stated purpose is the opposite of passing amps.
26:13
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Forming Resonant Charging Chokes by using Stainless Steel Electro Inductance wire material, which, when electrically pulsed, transmits voltage intensity while restricting amp flow during Resonant Pulsing operations.
26:26
NeuralStan
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But be careful with that number.
26:28
NeuralStan
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The ten milliamp figure people quote comes from a sentence about inhibiting amp leakage in the milliamperes range.
26:34
NeuralStan
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That is a claim about what leaks, not a rating of what the circuit can deliver, and using it as a circuit limit is putting words in his mouth.
26:44
Evil Stan
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So let us not argue about the chokes at all.
26:46
Evil Stan
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Let us move the meter somewhere nobody can dispute, which is the other end of the wire.
26:53
NeuralStan
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The energy has to come from the alternator.
26:55
NeuralStan
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Eleven point seven kilowatts of dissociation, at a hundred shots a second, at thirteen point eight volts, is eight hundred and fifty amps.
27:02
NeuralStan
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To hold the buggy at sixty-five, which needs sixty-three kilowatts of heat through the engine, is four thousand six hundred amps.
27:12
NeuralStan
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A stock Volkswagen alternator delivers fifty-five.
27:16
Evil Stan
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Which is a clamp meter and ten seconds, and it does not care about waveforms, chokes, resonance, or anything anybody argues about on a forum.
27:27
Evil Stan
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Either the current is going in or it is not.
27:33
NeuralStan
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And one more thing that gets asserted rather than computed.
27:36
NeuralStan
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It is often said that the mixture is only in the field for a fraction of a millisecond, and that this makes the demand worse.
27:41
NeuralStan
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Compute it.
27:46
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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In a spark plug sized injector, the voltage zone will typically extend longitudinally about point two five to one inch, to permit sufficient dwell time of the water mist and gas mixture between the conductive surfaces that form a capacitor.
28:02
NeuralStan
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Computed from his own flow, through the sixteen-hundredths passage of his own drawings, one shot delivered over a millisecond moves at three point seven metres a second.
28:11
NeuralStan
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That gives a dwell of one point seven to six point eight milliseconds.
28:15
NeuralStan
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Spread over the whole intake it is seventeen to sixty-eight.
28:20
NeuralStan
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So the dwell is longer than the millisecond, not shorter.
28:24
NeuralStan
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The dwell is not the problem.
28:26
NeuralStan
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The power is, and the power does not move.
28:31
Evil Stan
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And you cannot fix this with a better cone or a cleverer waveform, because it is not a circuit problem.
28:36
Evil Stan
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A hundred and seventeen joules is a hundred and seventeen joules.
28:39
Evil Stan
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You can deliver it slowly at low current, or quickly at high current, and he has built a machine that insists on both slowly and quickly at once.
28:56
NeuralStan
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And now the page nobody ever reads out, which is the one a builder would actually want, because it is an operating procedure.
29:04
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Flame temperature is regulated by controlling the volume flow-rate of each fluid-media in direct relationship to applied voltage intensity.
29:13
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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To elevate flame temperature, fluid displacement is increased while the volume flow rate of non-combustible gases is maintained or reduced and the applied voltage amplitude is increased.
29:26
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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To lower flame temperature, the fluid flow rate of non-combustible gases is increased and pulse voltage amplitude is lowered.
29:36
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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To establish a predetermined flame temperature, the fluid media and applied voltage are adjusted independently.
29:43
NeuralStan
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To make the flame hotter: more water, less exhaust, more volts.
29:47
NeuralStan
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To make it cooler: the opposite.
29:50
NeuralStan
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To set it to a number: adjust the two independently.
29:53
NeuralStan
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That is a service manual for a machine that does not exist yet, and it is the clearest page in the file.
29:58
NeuralStan
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It also tells you something about how he was working, because you only write that paragraph if you have stood in front of the thing turning the knobs.
30:07
Evil Stan
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And it is the answer to a question the replication threads never get to, which is: suppose it worked.
30:13
Evil Stan
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Then what?
30:15
Evil Stan
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What do you turn?
30:16
Evil Stan
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He answered that, in nineteen ninety-one, in a patent, and nobody reads past the drawings.
30:26
Evil Stan
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I will also say what it is not.
30:29
Evil Stan
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It is not evidence that the flame existed.
30:32
Evil Stan
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It is evidence that he had a control scheme for it.
30:35
Evil Stan
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Those are different things and an archive should be able to hold both.
30:41
NeuralStan
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Which brings us to the outer ring, the non-combustible gas, and to the part that is simply right.
30:49
NeuralStan
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Hydrogen has a problem in a piston engine, and it is not the one people expect.
30:53
NeuralStan
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It burns too fast.
30:54
NeuralStan
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A hydrogen flame travels at two hundred and sixty-five to three hundred and twenty-five centimetres a second.
30:59
NeuralStan
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Petrol vapour manages thirty-seven to forty-three.
31:03
NeuralStan
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The charge is gone before the crank has turned far enough to use it, and the engine knocks.
31:11
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The non-combustible gases in the fuel mixture reduce the burn rate of hydrogen to that of a hydrocarbon fuel such as gasoline or kerosene, from its normal burn rate, which is approximately two point five times that of gasoline.
31:27
NeuralStan
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Two and a half times.
31:28
NeuralStan
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The measured flame speeds put it nearer seven, which is usually read as him understating his own problem by a factor of three.
31:35
NeuralStan
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That is not quite fair to him, and here is why.
31:39
NeuralStan
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Two and a half is the right number for a different quantity.
31:41
NeuralStan
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Hydrogen's heating value per kilogram is a hundred and twenty megajoules against petrol's forty-four, a ratio of two point seven.
31:48
NeuralStan
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And in the nineteen ninety-two interview he uses two and a half for exactly that: its energy releases roughly two and a half times that of gasoline.
31:58
Evil Stan
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So it is a correct energy figure that has wandered into a sentence about flame speed.
32:02
Evil Stan
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Keep both numbers in your head.
32:05
Evil Stan
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Two and a half for energy, about seven for speed.
32:07
Evil Stan
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The fix he proposes is still the right fix.
32:12
Evil Stan
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He needs more of it than that sentence implies.
32:18
NeuralStan
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The fix is to put something in that will not burn.
32:21
NeuralStan
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Hydrogen is forgiving about it: it still ignites at four per cent of the mixture, where petrol needs at least one and a half and stops at seven and a half.
32:31
NeuralStan
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On the left, thirty-six per cent non-combustible gas brings hydrogen down to forty-three centimetres a second, which is petrol's.
32:39
NeuralStan
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On the right, the same move drops the peak from two thousand four hundred and eighty-three kelvin to sixteen hundred and twenty-one, and nitric oxide, which follows that peak exponentially, falls by a factor of three thousand seven hundred.
32:53
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Depending upon the utility of the combustion chamber, the ratio of the combustible hydrogen gas and the non-combustible gas controls the combustion rate.
33:02
NeuralStan
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The industry calls this exhaust gas recirculation, and every engine built since about nineteen seventy-three has it.
33:10
NeuralStan
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He is often said to have arrived at it independently.
33:13
NeuralStan
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Here is the document that proves when.
33:15
NeuralStan
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This is the Canadian filing from nineteen eighty-three, eight years before the injector patent.
33:22
NeuralStan
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The exhaust gases of the combustion chamber are returned in a closed loop arrangement to the mixing chamber to provide the non-combustible gases.
33:29
NeuralStan
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That is the third stream, in writing, in nineteen eighty-three.
33:34
NeuralStan
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And around it, three things worth a builder's attention.
33:36
NeuralStan
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A cooling chamber that also functions as a spark arrestor, which is the quenching disc's ancestor.
33:41
NeuralStan
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An earlier processor that made its inert gas by passing air through an open flame burner, which is crude and completely honest.
33:48
NeuralStan
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And a figure four, which is a gas control system for retrofitting existing automobiles.
33:56
Evil Stan
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A retrofit kit, in nineteen eighty-three.
34:01
Evil Stan
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Whatever else is true about this man, he was never designing for a laboratory.
34:06
Evil Stan
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And on the dilution itself I will give him the whole thing.
34:09
Evil Stan
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It is the one part of this plug I would keep.
34:12
Evil Stan
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The industry now does both of his streams, water for knock control and exhaust for flame speed, and it does them for his reasons.
34:19
Evil Stan
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He got there first and for a fuel nobody was using.
34:27
NeuralStan
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And his answer to wanting more power is the honest one: use more plugs.
34:31
NeuralStan
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Figure four is a disk of seven of them, and he proposes arrays for furnaces, jet engines and rockets.
34:38
NeuralStan
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That is the right instinct for a device whose output per shot is fixed by the size of the droplet.
34:43
NeuralStan
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If one plug gives you a certain thermal power, seven give you seven times as much.
34:49
NeuralStan
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There is also a sentence in the same patent that nobody quotes, and it is the most conventional thing he ever wrote: in alternate applications, laser primed ionised liquid oxygen and laser primed liquid hydrogen stored in separate fuel tanks can be used in place of the fuel mixture.
35:05
Evil Stan
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Which is a rocket.
35:07
Evil Stan
·
An ordinary one.
35:09
Evil Stan
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He is hedging, in his own patent, and leaving himself a version of the machine that runs on propellant out of tanks like everybody else's.
35:19
Evil Stan
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And arraying multiplies what it produces and what it consumes by the same number, so it moves the problem without touching it.
35:28
Evil Stan
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Seven plugs is seven times the alternator current, and the alternator is where we agreed to put the meter.
35:38
NeuralStan
·
One more thing is bound into this document, and almost nobody reads it, because it sits four pages after the drawings where a reader has usually stopped.
35:45
NeuralStan
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It is the international search report.
35:48
NeuralStan
·
It is usually summarised badly, so here it is off the scan.
35:52
NeuralStan
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Two documents carry category X: McClure, from nineteen eighty, against claims one, two, seven, eight, ten, twelve and thirteen; and Lee, published on the thirtieth of April nineteen ninety-one, six weeks before he filed, against claims ten to thirteen.
36:08
NeuralStan
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Then eight documents carry category Y, meaning relevant in combination: Pacheco, Wigal, Mosher, Paillaud, Levy, and three of Meyer's own patents.
36:19
NeuralStan
·
The last citation on the list is United States four nine three six nine six one, which is the fuel gas patent episode fourteen is built on.
36:29
Evil Stan
·
So the last three documents the searcher cited against him are his own.
36:37
Evil Stan
·
That is not an insult.
36:39
Evil Stan
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It is the searcher agreeing with the abstract: this is the cell, in a smaller box.
36:48
NeuralStan
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And it is worth being exact about what the document means, because it gets overstated in both directions.
36:53
NeuralStan
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A search report is not an examination and not a refusal.
36:56
NeuralStan
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It is the searcher's list of what a reader should look at, and the applicant answers it later by amending.
37:01
NeuralStan
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Look at the bottom of the sheet: no claims were found unsearchable, and no objection was raised to unity of invention.
37:07
NeuralStan
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Nothing is ticked.
37:12
Evil Stan
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Which does not make category X friendly.
37:16
Evil Stan
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Category X means the searcher thinks that on its own the document stops you being novel.
37:24
Evil Stan
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Two of those, on the main claims, is a hard start.
37:30
Evil Stan
·
But the useful thing to do with this page is not to score it.
37:34
Evil Stan
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It is to go and read McClure and Lee, because the searcher is telling you what was already on the shelf in this exact field, and nobody in this archive has ever posted a word about either of them.
37:49
NeuralStan
·
And the last number, which is his, not mine.
37:53
NeuralStan
·
The archive records his claim about what this ran.
37:55
NeuralStan
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Seven point four microlitres a cycle, a sixteen hundred cc Volkswagen making fifty horsepower, at sixty-five miles an hour on the open road.
38:05
NeuralStan
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A hundred shots a second of that water is eleven point seven kilowatts of heat.
38:09
NeuralStan
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Through a piston engine at a quarter efficiency, three point nine horsepower at the crank.
38:12
NeuralStan
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Holding a dune buggy at sixty-five on the level takes about twenty-one.
38:18
NeuralStan
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Three point nine against twenty-one.
38:21
NeuralStan
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Short by a factor of five, with the hydrogen arriving free, and nothing yet paid to split it.
38:27
NeuralStan
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And turn it round, which is the useful way to hold it.
38:29
NeuralStan
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If the hydrogen really were free, sixty-five miles an hour would need two hundred and forty millilitres of water a minute.
38:35
NeuralStan
·
Fourteen litres an hour.
38:39
Evil Stan
·
Weigh the tank.
38:41
Evil Stan
·
Drive for ten minutes.
38:43
Evil Stan
·
Weigh it again.
38:44
Evil Stan
·
If it has gone down by two and a half litres, everything in this film that says otherwise is wrong and I will come back and say so.
38:52
Evil Stan
·
If it has not moved, the hydrogen is not free.
38:57
Evil Stan
·
It is absent.
39:02
Evil Stan
·
Water is what you get after hydrogen has burned.
39:05
Evil Stan
·
It is ash.
39:07
Evil Stan
·
Using it as fuel means un-burning it first, and un-burning costs exactly what burning paid, to the joule, because it is the same bond.
39:18
NeuralStan
·
So if you are working on this, here is the card, and nothing on it costs more than a decent meal.
39:24
NeuralStan
·
First, a clamp meter on the alternator lead, at a steady road speed.
39:27
NeuralStan
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Eleven point seven kilowatts of dissociation is eight hundred and fifty amps at thirteen point eight volts.
39:33
NeuralStan
·
Holding sixty-five is four and a half thousand.
39:36
NeuralStan
·
A stock alternator gives fifty-five.
39:38
NeuralStan
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If your meter reads forty, the plug is igniting a mist with a spark, which is what its geometry can do, and the engine is running on whatever else is in the charge.
39:49
NeuralStan
·
Second, the tank on scales.
39:52
NeuralStan
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Fourteen litres an hour at sixty-five, if the hydrogen is free.
39:57
NeuralStan
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Third, a high-voltage probe across the gap at a hundred and twenty-five psi.
40:01
NeuralStan
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Expect about ten kilovolts.
40:03
NeuralStan
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That is your ignition voltage, and it is not your polarisation voltage, and any sentence that confuses the two is wrong whoever wrote it.
40:13
NeuralStan
·
Fourth, and this is the interesting one: catch the spray on a slide, once with the voltage off and once with it on, and measure the droplets.
40:22
NeuralStan
·
His sentence says the field should shrink them.
40:24
NeuralStan
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The arithmetic says it should shrink them to about twenty-five microns.
40:29
NeuralStan
·
If it does, he was right about something nobody has checked.
40:35
Evil Stan
·
And fifth, which is free: go and read McClure and Lee.
40:38
Evil Stan
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The searcher put them in the file in nineteen ninety-one to tell whoever came next what was already known, and in thirty-five years nobody in this archive has looked.
40:49
NeuralStan
·
Everything shown tonight is on the episode page, in the order it came up.
40:53
NeuralStan
·
Every sentence in Stan's voice is on one of those pages.
40:57
NeuralStan
·
The droplet arithmetic, the Paschen limit, the taper impedance, the stored energy in the cone, the dwell and the dilution model are all in one script in the repository beside this film, with their assumptions at the top, so you can change one and see what moves.
41:12
NeuralStan
·
Five of its numbers are checked against figures worked by hand, and all five agree.
41:19
Evil Stan
·
So, the water plug.
41:22
Evil Stan
·
The taper is right, and I checked it twice.
41:25
Evil Stan
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The exhaust stream is right, the industry agrees with him, and he had it in nineteen eighty-three.
41:30
Evil Stan
·
The ionised gas has a real job.
41:33
Evil Stan
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The cone is a very good pressurised spark gap.
41:36
Evil Stan
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And the droplet arithmetic, which is normally used against him, comes out on his side once you use the voltage the gap can actually hold.
41:48
Evil Stan
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Build those and you have a hydrogen-ready igniter with knock control and a written control procedure, which in nineteen ninety-one nobody else had either.
41:59
Evil Stan
·
And then there is the hundred and seventeen joules.
42:01
Evil Stan
·
It does not move.
42:03
Evil Stan
·
It is not a circuit problem, a waveform problem, a dwell problem or a droplet problem, and people spend years on all four.
42:12
Evil Stan
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It is one number, and the meter that reads it is on the alternator.
42:22
NeuralStan
·
Two of the things in this film came from outside it — from a builder reading the drawings and finding the seam.
42:26
NeuralStan
·
That is the only quality control this archive has, and it is working, and it is slow.
42:33
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Thank you for watching.
42:35
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Everything you have seen is in the archive at stans legacy dot com.
42:40
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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Read the patent for yourself, check my arithmetic, and sign up to take part.
42:44
Stan Meyer (synthetic voice)
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The work is not finished, and it was never meant to be done alone.